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Not sure if my first post is still up. If it is, sorry for the redundancy. Accidentally hit post before I was done and couldn't figure out to edit so I (hopefully correctly) cleared it to start over. My husband loves these pants! Says they're comfortable, easy to move in and look much more professional than wearing jeans to work. He's a plumber which is dirty, wet work. Obviously the water resistance (they're not water proof) doesn't make much of a difference when he has water spraying all over him or is standing ankle deep in water but small drips and such he can wipe off without them soaking through. I like how well they clean up when I wash them. He has a tendency to wipe his hands on his pants when he's working. Much of the chunks of dirt, plaster and caulk can be brushed off pretty easily before washing. Unlike jeans where they soak into fabric and adhere to them making nearly impossible to get really clean and leaving chunks of crud in the bottom of my washer. I'm thinking the water resistance treatment may be part of the reason why. He also loves all the pockets. There's a deeper one for his phone so it doesn't fall out of a back pocket like sometimes happens with jeans. There are also more pockets for the small tools, nuts, bolts and various small plumbing pieces he needs to carry. He's had them for about 4 months now and they're holding up great and still look good. I got the first ones on sale but even at full price I'm planning to buy several more pairs. Definitely worth the money!I was looking for tactical pants that would be loose fit on my wide legs.I ordered a different pair of CQR pants before which are ok but they size them in L/XL/XXL options for some reason instead of belt size like this version. Those were unfortunately a bit too baggy even for me which is astonishing. I perhaps ordered a size too big on those.These pants are just right. And they even have 2 very convenient extra pockets in the upper thigh area in front of the conventional front pockets. I can stuff pepper spray, a pocket knife, writing utensils/highlighters, extra magazine.The waist is stretchy and comfy. Belt loops accommodate my nylon tactical belt easily.Only downside is that these aren't that breathable but then again many tactical pants aren't. I have 5.11 pants that don't breathe either. So definitely more suited for moderate to colder temperatures. Unless you don't really sweat in the legs like I do.Great pants and I prefer these over 5.11 pants that taper at the ankle a bit too much for my liking.I’m a 59 year old, overweight, woman 5’3” about 195 lbs. I find it difficult to get women’s pants that fit comfortably and have “real” pockets that are actually useful. I often end up getting men’s pants. Carrying a purse is not practical for me, so pockets are important. I carry lots of stuff. The stuff needs to stay in the pockets and the pants need to still be comfortable with the stuff in the pockets. I also need to be able to have quick access to my stuff.I purchased two pair of tactical pants to compare. I like both and will be keeping both.The Proper woman’s size 18 were not hemmed and I needed to do that myself. I could not find a good match for this gray color for the thread. Doing my own hem is alright as I can give a bit of extra length for blousing my pants with my boots. The CQR are men’s size 38x30. As you can see from the photos, both fit very similarly.The Proper fabric is heavier and thus also hotter in the Southcentral KY summer heat and humidity. The gray color is quite different between the two. I like the Proper color just a bit more than the CQR.The pocket on the right front thigh was significantly different. My cellphone (iPhone XR) fits better in the Proper pants. The pocket is just a bit wider. The CQR pocket is barely wide enough to get my cellphone in. This pocket on the CQR is also canted towards the side seam. This makes it uncomfortable when sitting with the cellphone in the pocket and very difficult to get the phone out. If sitting, it is nearly impossible to remove the cellphone from that pocket on with the CQR pair. I can get my phone out of the pocket while sitting with the Proper pair. And, having the phone in the pocket while sitting is much more comfortable with the Proper pair.The internal fly button on the Proper pants is more robust and stitched more securely. The CQR button is smaller. Both are about as difficult to button and unbutton.The CQR fabric is thinner. This makes them a little lighter in the summer heat. However, the material inside the front pockets is also much thinner. I’m expecting my stuff to wear through this material fairly quickly. The material inside the front pockets on the Proper pair is much heavier. These pockets feel sturdy and I expect my stuff to be carried securely, longer. The trade off for the heavier pocket material is this adds weight/bulk and that makes the Proper pants hotter for the summer.The back pockets on the Proper pants do not have cover flaps. They are closed with hook & loop part way across. I can get my hands in fairly easily, but plant debris also gets inside. The CQR pants back pockets have cover flaps.The small pocket on the left front thigh is smaller/narrower on the CQR pants. This means my minimal wallet is a very tight fit. The canted angle also makes it difficult to remove my wallet from the pocket while sitting. I don’t carry my magazines in this pocket, I prefer the belt for that. My wallet is more comfortable in the Proper pants and I can easily remove it while sitting. Makes the drive through ATM much easier.The CQR pants pockets are placed with an odd angle. I suppose this was don’t with the intention of making them more easily accessible. But, having worn BDU for many years, I’m not accustomed to the angle and it just feels weird to me. I prefer the straight placement of the proper pants pockets.Bottom line, both pairs of pants are similar in fit. The CQR pair is lighter for the heat of summer, but this may lead to mom them not lasting as long under field use. The Proper pants are hotter. Being an older lady who is carrying too much body fat, I’m also stuck wearing thigh high compression stockings. This makes the Proper pants very hot outdoors. Both CQR and Proper do not slide easily over the compression stocking. Both seem to bind my knees when I sit even when I hike them up at my he pockets before I sit.The 30” inseam with the CQR pants as well as my own hemming of the Proper pants allows me to easily blouse my pants with my boots.Both pairs have a gap at the rear when I sit, even wearing a belt. Thus, a tucked in shirt, of untucked with extra length is necessary for me. No “plumbers butt” for me.I give both pairs of pants five stars. I’ll have to post an update in a few months after I see how well each pair of pants holds up to my farming and field work.The pants themselves are good quality material. HOWEVER, the stitching is kinda crappy for what you're paying for. I bought three different pair of them and the first came in and I figured no big deal, but the third idk if I'll buy again without checking other brands out first. I thought they were just lose strands left over, but when I go to pull on some of them they don't come out and end up pulling on the entire seem of the pants.I'd tried adding pics, but Amazon isn't loading them for some reason.These pants are the best quality for the price that I have ever purchased. The one issue though that I’ve seen is that the pockets get holes in them fast. If you are going to make durable pants like this then go the final step of making cut resistant pockets too! (This is a problem with all pants that I’ve purchased from multiple companies not just this one)I’d bring willing to pay $10 more if they had durable pockets…The pants overall are pretty good. They arrived quick and as expected and in good shape. Color looked like the picture (rescue orange is what I ordered) and the style overall was what I expected. Speaking of 'style', some have mentioned issues with them being a bit looser than expected but in my opinion, the last thing you want in a 'Tactical' style pant is tight fitting 'skinny jeans' look - so I personally liked the looser fit.Unfortunately, I wasn't able to rate the wear and tear of the pant itself as I returned them after trying them on. My reason was mainly work related. I'm constantly on the hunt for a pair of pants I can use for search and rescue, and as well made as these pants seemed, I did have a couple of concerns.One was the color. This was strictly personal and not a slag against the company Hi-vis orange is actually the color I'm aiming for and while these are orange, they were too much on the reddish side of the spectrum for my needs and taste. That opinion aside, I would have maybe kept them if not for another concern - the lack of a crotch gusset.Being 'tactical' and being in search and rescue, stretch is a must. My opinion is that if the material doesn't stretch, I can live with it so long as a good quality crotch gusset is added - something well made, well stitched and stretchy - allowing more movement when walking over fallen trees or fences, etc. It's something I do often in the field and stretchiness in the crotch is an absolute must. I can't tell you how often I've suffered the humiliation of having my pants split open and the moment I put these pants on, I knew that if I even attempted a search, I would have ruined these pants.If a gusset or stretch in the crotch area isn't a concern, I think the pants are fine (visually). For opinion on wear and tear you'll need to seek out other reviews. But for lack of a gusset and overall stretch in the crotch, I'm giving them 4 stars. I think anything listed as 'Tactical' should offer optimum maneuverability. These pants came SO close, but alas my search (for pants) continues.